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  1. Old Geezer says:

    I only learned about Chatham because of the station in Mount Kisco.

    On the roof of the Mount Kisco station, facing the tracks, is a sign that gives mileage, toward the south, to NY, which is obviously New York City. Toward the north, the mileage is to “Ch”.

    Where the heck is “Ch”, he asked himself one day.

    On Google maps, by tracing the likely path north of Amenia, NY, you find no obvious “Ch” towns at first, and only find Chatham after you have zoomed down quite a bit in scale. Chatham is no longer the size or importance it once was. But it had to have been Chatham that Mount Kisco references, since the “Ch” and the approximate mileage match. Mystery solved.

    Thanks for filling in the details. I’m betting the village is a bit of a time warp. Someday I’ll take a run up there myself to see it.

    • Emily says:

      That’s cool… I don’t remember seeing the sign you are referring to in Mount Kisco… is it still there? I’ll have to look for it. But it is pretty likely that is what the sign is referring to. If you ever get a chance do go up there though. Beautiful area… rather quiet though.

      • David says:

        I know I’m 2 replying 2 years after your post, but yes, the sign is still hanging from the roof of the Mount Kisco station (on the side facing the tracks). The station was refurbished into a restaurant 10-12 years ago and looks pretty good.

  2. Al Cyone says:

    I visited the Shaker Museum there once but missed that great station so now I have to go back! Most of what I know about Chatham is that there are five of them: Chatham, Chatham Center, North Chatham, East Chatham, and Old Chatham.

    As they used to say in the Army, “Chatham if ya got ’em!”.

  3. Steve says:

    Railfan “coming out”, Yeah, that was me.

    As more of history buff, I understand the fascination of the what was there. Actually, as much as i enjoy trains, pretty much any massive physical infrastructure fascinates me. Railroads, bridges, canals, old power plants, dams. but I enjoy your posts, and your accuracy is pretty good.

    Having grown up in Mahopac, the Harlem was a short bike ride at croton falls. Back in the day before the high level platforms, the M-3’s and now the 7’s and electrification I could ride to Brewster and wander around the yards on the weekend touring the rag tag collection of former smooth sided long distance coaches. As the Conrail years dragged on and the 40 year old never maintained coaches were failing, Amtrak was jettisoning short haul cars at a good clip as they were replaced with Amfleet cars, and for the last gasp of traditional railroading on the Harlem was played out in stainless cars with some working Air conditioning and riding in the vestibule at an open Dutch door. The train stopping and a trainman opening the trap and dropping a step box. One way, GCT to Croton Falls, $5.75, the Walters transit bus, which paralleled the old put route was $3.50.

    I don’t remember Budd Cars until after Metro North, and they used SPV’s Brewester North- Wingdale for a few years. I do remember Budd cars on the Hudson, as well a train set of former D&H cars.

    When are you going to come visit the Poughkeepsie Bridge, aka now as the walkway over the hudson?

    • CC says:

      I too grew up in Mahopac and remember a few of the last freight trains using the ‘Put’ before its demise. My grandparents still lived in Brooklyn and we would pick them up and drop them off at Croton Falls when they would come to visit for the weekend. By the time I was out of high school, the third rail was on the Harlem line up to Brewster North (now Southeast). I do remember seeing the Budd cars on the Harlem near Dover Plains. Too bad the Put and the Goldens Bridge branch are gone, for the area could use the mass transit.

  4. Brett says:

    Nice catch of the Lakeshore Limited! It would be sort of neat if Amtrak actually stopped the train there, considering there is actually a “station” of sorts still there…

  5. Blair says:

    It’s great that you took the time to investigate this.

    Chatham was also the last stop for a rail line that ran from Hudson to Chatham which shared the last mile or two south of Chatham with the Harlem line. This line later became part of the Boston & Albany line as freight only which became owned by the New York Central. This line now ends at the grain mill just outside of Hudson.

  6. Potrzebie says:

    I grew up in Chatham, unfortunately not early enough to see the glory days of Chatham’s railroads. I did ride the Harlem to NYC several times before service ended in ’72. By then the yard was in serious decline. By then the Rutland had been gone almost 20 years. Perhaps the best research on the Rutland was done by Jim Shaghnessy in his book, “The Rutland Road.” A few trains a day still pass through, but imagine that in the 1950s, as many as 40 per day went through.

    • Jeff says:

      Potrzebie, I wonder how many others here recognize where your screen name is from? They’d be mad not to! ;-)

  7. Jeff says:

    Until I saw this, I knew nothing about Chatham except that it was where I got a speeding ticket on the Taconic State Parkway, which kind of gave it a negative vibe in my mind…I certainly never knew the Harlem line ended there.

    But hey, here’s something cool — don’t know how much longer this will be up, but right now if you go to Street View on Google Maps to try and look at the old Chatham Station, there’s a Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus train parked there, blocking the view!

  8. Robert Katz says:

    I grew up in the Bronx and we hung out by the Fordham station during the years 1954-1959 watching the NH and Harlem line trains go by quite frequently. In the station , the stairs leading down to the northbound platform had a sign reading “To Chatham”. Fordham was a local stop only so anyone going upstate had to take a local and transfer to an upper harlem train at White Plains. I also spent summers at Goldens Bridge during the time of the change from steam to diesel. I remember the Mahopac Branch trains turning off there. The big treat was when an express came through and picked up the mailbag that the station agent hung on the mail crane. That was long before Route 684 obliterated the town.

  9. Christopher Platt says:

    In 20 years of visiting Columbia County I only made it to Chatham once, for The Columbia County Fair.
    I will be sure to spend a day there on my next Columbus Day weekend leaf-peeping trip. Thanks Emily!

    Chris in Rockaway Beach

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