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		By: Backshophoss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Backshophoss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2017 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The&quot;summer of hell&quot; is the rebuilding of &quot;A&quot; interlocking and hopefully a good chunk of the leftover Sandy
damage that was lurking in that area,the &quot;new&quot; concourse was needed,but is lacking LIRR TVM&#039;s and
Amtrak&#039;s Quick-Trac Machines for now.
Believe there&#039;s intention of adding retail stores on this concourse over time.
There&#039;s been some grips that the concourse doesn&#039;t reach tracks 1-4(NJT&#039;s stub tracks).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The&#8221;summer of hell&#8221; is the rebuilding of &#8220;A&#8221; interlocking and hopefully a good chunk of the leftover Sandy<br />
damage that was lurking in that area,the &#8220;new&#8221; concourse was needed,but is lacking LIRR TVM&#8217;s and<br />
Amtrak&#8217;s Quick-Trac Machines for now.<br />
Believe there&#8217;s intention of adding retail stores on this concourse over time.<br />
There&#8217;s been some grips that the concourse doesn&#8217;t reach tracks 1-4(NJT&#8217;s stub tracks).</p>
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		By: Naomi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naomi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks so similar to JetBlue&#039;s T5 terminal at JFK. Color scheme, font, etc. We accidentally stumbled into this new part of PENN on Saturday evening July 8th and it was so empty, it was as if no one knew it had opened yet. I think the digital screens on the ceiling (which usually shows clouds) is a bit much but that&#039;s probably just me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks so similar to JetBlue&#8217;s T5 terminal at JFK. Color scheme, font, etc. We accidentally stumbled into this new part of PENN on Saturday evening July 8th and it was so empty, it was as if no one knew it had opened yet. I think the digital screens on the ceiling (which usually shows clouds) is a bit much but that&#8217;s probably just me.</p>
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		By: Tyler Trahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler Trahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339022&quot;&gt;Steve Dunham&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Tag cloud&quot; is exactly right. Wayfinding signs should be as simple, concise, and consistent as possible. Results like this make me think that the ego of the designers has overridden the needs of the user. 

Cambridge Seven got it right in 1967 when it standardized signage on Boston&#039;s MBTA. I&#039;ve never had any trouble navigating even the most convoluted of stations, many of them crammed into ancient cut and cover tunnels underneath the city&#039;s infamous road network.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339022">Steve Dunham</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tag cloud&#8221; is exactly right. Wayfinding signs should be as simple, concise, and consistent as possible. Results like this make me think that the ego of the designers has overridden the needs of the user. </p>
<p>Cambridge Seven got it right in 1967 when it standardized signage on Boston&#8217;s MBTA. I&#8217;ve never had any trouble navigating even the most convoluted of stations, many of them crammed into ancient cut and cover tunnels underneath the city&#8217;s infamous road network.</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 02:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339028&quot;&gt;Walter Haner&lt;/a&gt;.

Have to agree with Walter on that one. If you want to argue that the establishment of the Landmarks Preservation Comission was an important gain, I would probably have to agree with you. I&#039;m a firm believer in that one of the two great stations in New York had to go to save the other (and in reality save a lot more of the city&#039;s history) - a sad impetus to wake the city up... but you won&#039;t get me to agree that MSG was an appropriate replacement, or was an important gain for the city!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339028">Walter Haner</a>.</p>
<p>Have to agree with Walter on that one. If you want to argue that the establishment of the Landmarks Preservation Comission was an important gain, I would probably have to agree with you. I&#8217;m a firm believer in that one of the two great stations in New York had to go to save the other (and in reality save a lot more of the city&#8217;s history) &#8211; a sad impetus to wake the city up&#8230; but you won&#8217;t get me to agree that MSG was an appropriate replacement, or was an important gain for the city!</p>
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		By: Walter Haner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Haner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339027&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

I have been a life long NY Rangers fan and as a child used to go to the Old Garden on 50th.  While that needed  to be replaced, the new building is a terrible disaster compared to just about any other NHL arena that I&#039;ve been in -- compare it to the Buffalo arena for example.  That we destroyed Penn Station and built a second rate -- nay third rate -- arena in it&#039;s place remains the greatest act of vandalism perpetrated in NYC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339027">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>I have been a life long NY Rangers fan and as a child used to go to the Old Garden on 50th.  While that needed  to be replaced, the new building is a terrible disaster compared to just about any other NHL arena that I&#8217;ve been in &#8212; compare it to the Buffalo arena for example.  That we destroyed Penn Station and built a second rate &#8212; nay third rate &#8212; arena in it&#8217;s place remains the greatest act of vandalism perpetrated in NYC.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying that the destruction of Penn Station was a good thing, but consider the Concert for Bangladesh, The Song Remains the Same, &quot;I think we see Willis coming out!&quot; &quot;Matteau! Matteau! Matteau!&quot; and &quot;Osama Bin Laden can kiss my royal Irish ass!&quot; During the Ken Burns documentary, I wondered where were Marv Albert and Sam Rosen to provide a little balance. One architectural critic in that said that &quot;what was lost wasn&#039;t as important as what was gained.&quot; She was referring to landmarks preservation and the salvation of Grand Central, but New Yorkers have made many important and lasting memories at MSG.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that the destruction of Penn Station was a good thing, but consider the Concert for Bangladesh, The Song Remains the Same, &#8220;I think we see Willis coming out!&#8221; &#8220;Matteau! Matteau! Matteau!&#8221; and &#8220;Osama Bin Laden can kiss my royal Irish ass!&#8221; During the Ken Burns documentary, I wondered where were Marv Albert and Sam Rosen to provide a little balance. One architectural critic in that said that &#8220;what was lost wasn&#8217;t as important as what was gained.&#8221; She was referring to landmarks preservation and the salvation of Grand Central, but New Yorkers have made many important and lasting memories at MSG.</p>
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		By: JOhn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JOhn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339025&quot;&gt;Emily&lt;/a&gt;.

I guess it all depends on if a person could connect between a Niagara Falls train and a Boston train....I&#039;ve never heard Empire trains announced before, they seem to like to force us into a standing line like we&#039;re being sent to gitmo or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339025">Emily</a>.</p>
<p>I guess it all depends on if a person could connect between a Niagara Falls train and a Boston train&#8230;.I&#8217;ve never heard Empire trains announced before, they seem to like to force us into a standing line like we&#8217;re being sent to gitmo or something.</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2017 02:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339024&quot;&gt;JOhn&lt;/a&gt;.

You can hear announcements, but there are no chairs. With the new access to the platforms, however, depending on what track your train is on you could get to it without ever having to see the rest of the station.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339024">JOhn</a>.</p>
<p>You can hear announcements, but there are no chairs. With the new access to the platforms, however, depending on what track your train is on you could get to it without ever having to see the rest of the station.</p>
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		By: JOhn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JOhn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[are there any chairs? can you hear boarding announcements on the PA? otherwise it&#039;s no better than a glorified vestibule]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are there any chairs? can you hear boarding announcements on the PA? otherwise it&#8217;s no better than a glorified vestibule</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339022&quot;&gt;Steve Dunham&lt;/a&gt;.

Haha, cranky Steve! I think your point is valid about the large text. I think it looks nice when it is empty, but when there are tons of people obscuring it, it will likely be hard to read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.iridetheharlemline.com/2017/07/07/welcome-to-the-new-penn-station/comment-page-1/#comment-339022">Steve Dunham</a>.</p>
<p>Haha, cranky Steve! I think your point is valid about the large text. I think it looks nice when it is empty, but when there are tons of people obscuring it, it will likely be hard to read.</p>
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